Saturday night at about 11pm I was walking with some friends on 6th street. When we got to 6th and 6th Avenue we ran into a group of about 10 kids ranging in age from 14 to 18 years old. They told us to give them money and when I refused one of them pushed me over a fence into someone’s flowerbed. The owner of the house came out and started screaming at me (?!) for destroying her flowers. The kids all thought it was a big joke and just egged her on. Luckily, we saw a cab and jumped into it but not before one of the kids took a swing at me and punched me in the face. If that lady hadn’t come out to yell at me or if we hadn’t been able to grab that cab I don’t know what would have happened. I called 311 the next day but they were less than impressed.
Flexichick Windsor Terrorist
Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 9623
Mon Apr 14, 08 10:32 am EST
that sucks.
I would have called 911 instead - right when it happened. _________________ Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Mon Apr 14, 08 10:33 am EST
call 911 it was attempting mugging and beating. _________________ Fight white guilt and injustice by going to a Native American casino and gamble your money away.
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LongTimeSloper Hi there
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 2423
Mon Apr 14, 08 10:34 am EST
Wow! So sorry to hear this happened to you! why didn't you call the police right away though instead of waiting until the next day and then calling 311?
FourthStreeter Newbie
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 27
Mon Apr 14, 08 10:36 am EST
Of course 311 doesn't give a crap when you call them the next day. What are they going to do about it after the fact?
Why didn't you call the cops right away? A group that large would be pretty easy for the cops to track down. Because of your inaction, they probably walked down the street and mugged someone else.
The Chipster Irregular
Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 678
Mon Apr 14, 08 10:46 am EST
Beware of Teens. Any place, any race, any culture. When you see a group of teens, it's pure blood lust + hormones = trouble. Hence the seemingly constant brawls at John Jay. _________________ Ask a burning question, get a burning answer.
pastoralia Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 612
Mon Apr 14, 08 10:50 am EST
We had been drinking and just wanted to get out of there. Booze makes you do stupid things and prevents you from thinking straight. I know I should have called them right away but for some dumb reason I didn't. I just wanted everyone else out there to be aware of what happened.
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Mon Apr 14, 08 10:56 am EST
i hope you still got in touch with the cops. make a report. 311 doesn't give a damn.
i hope those punks would get what they deserve. _________________ Fight white guilt and injustice by going to a Native American casino and gamble your money away.
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vanilla Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 1434
Mon Apr 14, 08 11:05 am EST
you should still file a police report. it's not too late.
Daruma Newbie
Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 35
Mon Apr 14, 08 11:32 am EST
Are you not armed?
I glad you both survived.
I will call my sons and warn them. Makes one wonder--guess roofs are safe--with 3 officers per call, FTAP.
Duffy'sSis Local
Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 290 Location: South Slope
Mon Apr 14, 08 12:08 pm EST
Very sorry to hear you were attacked. Please call the police and file a report.
Take care of yourself.
sjknoll Regular
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 179 Location: Kensington
Mon Apr 14, 08 12:28 pm EST
file the report. My fiance was mugged a few summers ago and I pushed him to file after the fact. Long story short, the guy mugged someone else, they filed a report and got him. The police brought in my fiance, he testified and now the guy is in jail.
At some point this kids will do it again and when they get caught, it will help all out to have those reports on file.
pastoralia Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 612
Mon Apr 14, 08 12:55 pm EST
I want to file a report but my memory of the attack is crap. One of those kids could be sitting across from me right now and I wouldn't even know it. Stupid booze. I will do it tonight when I get home. But if all I can say is "some kids tried to mug me and I don't have any descriptions of what they looked like" is that going to do any good? I'm afraid the cops will be like "you were drunk-case closed."
Flexichick Windsor Terrorist
Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 9623
Mon Apr 14, 08 1:30 pm EST
pastoralia wrote:
I want to file a report but my memory of the attack is crap. One of those kids could be sitting across from me right now and I wouldn't even know it. Stupid booze. I will do it tonight when I get home. But if all I can say is "some kids tried to mug me and I don't have any descriptions of what they looked like" is that going to do any good? I'm afraid the cops will be like "you were drunk-case closed."
Maybe the woman who came out to yell at you can describe them. Plus, I think it is good for cops and community to know that these type of things are taking place. Maybe these kids live on/near 6th/6th or hang out there -- you never know
MeredithB Happy-Go-Lucky Malcontent
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 1327 Location: Here and There
Mon Apr 14, 08 1:58 pm EST
The Chipster wrote:
Beware of Teens. Any place, any race, any culture. When you see a group of teens, it's pure blood lust + hormones = trouble. Hence the seemingly constant brawls at John Jay.
Bullshit! When I was a teen I never robbed or mugged anyone, nor did any other tenn in my whole high school!
Obviously, pastoralia doesn't mention these teens race or culture, heck it was probably mixed, but perhaps not. Being politically correct doesn't extend to muggings and robberies.
I wish pastoralia was more descriptive so that we'd all have abetter idea as to just what kind of teens to beware of!
daver who is you is
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 3591 Location: the land of the smiling knives
Mon Apr 14, 08 2:09 pm EST
MeredithB wrote:
Obviously, pastoralia doesn't mention these teens race or culture, heck it was probably mixed, but perhaps not. Being politically correct doesn't extend to muggings and robberies.
I wish pastoralia was more descriptive so that we'd all have abetter idea as to just what kind of teens to beware of!
Umm.
Beware of the kind of teens that want to take your money and punch you in the face. That kind sucks. _________________ "It's only as boring as you make it."
You're making me want to poke my eyes out with a spoon. Stop that.
Bringing the term thin-skinned to a whole new level!
caaahyoko Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1258
Mon Apr 14, 08 3:30 pm EST
MeredithB wrote:
Obviously, pastoralia doesn't mention these teens race or culture, heck it was probably mixed, but perhaps not. Being politically correct doesn't extend to muggings and robberies.
I wish pastoralia was more descriptive so that we'd all have abetter idea as to just what kind of teens to beware of!
Ugh. You didn't just say that...did you? Ugh.
pastoralia Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 612
Mon Apr 14, 08 4:04 pm EST
For what's its worth my one sober friend said they were white. She probably saved my life by dragging me into a cab. I've seen groups of white kids hanging around on various stoops on 6th street like they live there but I'm pretty sure they don't actually live there. There's nothing worse as a bunch of teens wanting to prove their "manhood" that's how bad, meaningless violence happens.
The lady might help ID them. While she was screaming at me she kept threatening to call the cops and my sober friend kept telling her to call them as the kids were circling us. But, from what my friend told me she was more upset that her pansies got crushed than someone was getting mugged. It was a crazy, scary night.
Beware of the kind of teens that want to take your money and punch you in the face. That kind sucks.
Ha! well said!! _________________ Get your paws off my canned chicken
MeredithB Happy-Go-Lucky Malcontent
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 1327 Location: Here and There
Mon Apr 14, 08 5:12 pm EST
caaahyoko wrote:
Ugh. You didn't just say that...did you? Ugh.
YEah I did. Sorry, but you must be the PC police. Please make sure that when the police issue all points bulletins, they don't mention har color, eye color, skin color because that would be racist.
And please patrol all the newspapers (including the Park Slope paper) which include physical descriptions of perpatrators in their weekly crime blotter.
Ugh. You political correctness makes me sick. Ugh.
drunk or no, next day or no, please consider filing a report with the police. they may give you the ol' eye roll because of your non-sobriety at the time of the incident, but you would be doing a good civic deed for the rest of your PS neighbors if you told your tale. nothing may ever come of it, but at least you know you did the right thing by the community.
take care _________________ Get your paws off my canned chicken
veets "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 2273
Mon Apr 14, 08 5:18 pm EST
MeredithB wrote:
caaahyoko wrote:
Ugh. You didn't just say that...did you? Ugh.
YEah I did. Sorry, but you must be the PC police. Please make sure that when the police issue all points bulletins, they don't mention har color, eye color, skin color because that would be racist.
And please patrol all the newspapers (including the Park Slope paper) which include physical descriptions of perpatrators in their weekly crime blotter.
Ugh. You political correctness makes me sick. Ugh.
A little heavy on the response there but the reality is that part of describing a pert includes hair color, color jacket, blah blah and race (as far as you can identify it) The truth is that we get the feeling that so many people in NYC who do commit a crime go free and that is true but, think of how many more would be out there committing the next crime if accurate descriptions were not put out to the public and given to police.
In many issues I am and proud to be the politically correct person but in this area I think the priority of keeping the community safer is the over-ride. If I was posting here about a similar incident I would be saying, white, green, black.. whatever!
Kikintina Regular
Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 186
Mon Apr 14, 08 6:07 pm EST
You don't really need a physical description to file a police report for an incident such as this. Just that it was a large group of teens between 14-18 is pretty good. Also, their actions are fairly descriptive. Please report it so that when (not if) it happens again, the cops will be able to have some sort of connection.
As the weather gets better (and school break is coming!), it will only be more common. _________________ Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
homeowner "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 2116 Location: Between a rock and a hard place
Mon Apr 14, 08 6:11 pm EST
pastoralia wrote:
Saturday night at about 11pm I was walking with some friends on 6th street. When we got to 6th and 6th Avenue we ran into a group of about 10 kids ranging in age from 14 to 18 years old.
Its funny because when I read this I just assumed it was a group of white kids or a racially mixed group, because I can't imaging 10 black kids between the ages of 14 & 18 hanging out on a street in PS at 11pm without someone calling the cops to see what was going on.
eggcream Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 1261 Location: PS Bklyn
Mon Apr 14, 08 6:20 pm EST
Male, female, combo? You had one sober friend with you? What was their description of the teens?
pastoralia wrote:
Saturday night at about 11pm I was walking with some friends on 6th street. When we got to 6th and 6th Avenue we ran into a group of about 10 kids ranging in age from 14 to 18 years old. They told us to give them money and when I refused one of them pushed me over a fence into someone’s flowerbed. The owner of the house came out and started screaming at me (?!) for destroying her flowers. The kids all thought it was a big joke and just egged her on. Luckily, we saw a cab and jumped into it but not before one of the kids took a swing at me and punched me in the face. If that lady hadn’t come out to yell at me or if we hadn’t been able to grab that cab I don’t know what would have happened. I called 311 the next day but they were less than impressed.
eggcream Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 1261 Location: PS Bklyn
Mon Apr 14, 08 6:21 pm EST
John Jay, yes, not just any teens in general though.
The Chipster wrote:
Beware of Teens. Any place, any race, any culture. When you see a group of teens, it's pure blood lust + hormones = trouble. Hence the seemingly constant brawls at John Jay.
arlette bklyn born and bred
Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 509
Mon Apr 14, 08 6:35 pm EST
What a stupid statement. Of course the more identifying characteristics you can provide helps the officers.What if they split up...into 2 groups.Is the officer suppose to do eeny meeny miney mo?Any descriptions including race, height, clothing, distinguishing marks such as piercings or tattoos is helpful.Also I assumed the same....cant possibly be a group of african american kids in park slope late at night without someone calling in the troops.
jayce Human Shield
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 461
Mon Apr 14, 08 7:10 pm EST
MeredithB wrote:
Ugh. You political correctness makes me sick. Ugh.
hahahahahahaha.
this from the woman who is boycotting pintchik for owning property.
hahahahahahaha.
the thing i like about you is that you just pick and adversarial side and bull dog the hell out of it. its so indiscriminate. you just like to argue huh? love it.
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 1327 Location: Here and There
Tue Apr 15, 08 6:36 am EST
Sorry, but when it comes to president, music idol, sports hero, banker, bus driver, CEO, attorney, judge, teacher, etc. the physical description of the person(s) really doesn't matter to me. But when it's a mugger, a rapist, a thief, etc. yeah, it matters.
raw "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 2036
Tue Apr 15, 08 6:43 am EST
311 the next day??? I would have called 911 immediately.
Use 911 to stop crime. 911 is the right number to call in an emergency when a prompt response is needed.
The OP said right out that they were drunk and not thinking clearly. But, if there is anyone out there that doesn't know to call 911 in an EMERGENCY, and getting mugged is one, then I suppose it is good to keep putting the information out there in this thread.
pastoralia Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 612
Tue Apr 15, 08 9:38 am EST
So, I called a cop that I knew from a previous unrelated incident and told him the story. He didn't think filing a report would do any good since if they made an arrest I wouldn't be able to press charges because I was so incoherent and drunk. He did say they have been getting a lot of calls around 6th and 4th streets about groups of kids sitting on people's stoops and spraying graffiti (6th street especially). He said he would pass the info of the incident on to the situation officer.
I must say after the initial shock is wearing off I'm now just really pissed and would love to kick the crap out of the little shit that sucker-punched a defenseless drunk guy who never meant anyone any harm. I mean, what gang are they supposed to be? The Park Slope Prep-Schoolers?
veets "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 2273
Tue Apr 15, 08 9:59 am EST
Pastoralia... I have to say this and I suppose at least some people are thinking this.
I am old enough to be your mother and I can say that because I am old enough to be the right age to be the mother of probably 75% of the posters on the site. If you get that incoherently drunk with your buddies don't walk around the neighborhood. It is as if you have a big mugger target on your chest! Call car service and get your pals in the car and have the driver drop everyone off at their homes.
Another alternative is if your plan is to get shit faced then buy the booze ( that will make for a lot cheaper evening)and hang out in someone's apartment and when everyone is about to go comatose anyway, have a sleep over like when you were a kid!
Peanuts Crabby Native
Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 511
Tue Apr 15, 08 10:19 am EST
Veets...thank you for saying what I was thinking....if you're that drunk you really shouldn't be walking the streets...not that that's an excuse for someone to mug you...but it's just not a wise thing to do. And I still don't understand why you would call 311 the next day...I don't think you should've called 911 because there was no emergency, but you should've called the local precinct.
That all being said, I'm glad you're OK _________________ Peanuts
pastoralia Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 612
Tue Apr 15, 08 10:37 am EST
I'm not too proud of myself either. It was all one big cock-up. I was on my home because I'd had too much to drink.
veets "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 2273
Tue Apr 15, 08 12:18 pm EST
pastoralia wrote:
I'm not too proud of myself either. It was all one big cock-up. I was on my home because I'd had too much to drink.
Reread what you typed. Sounds like you might be a little mind altered or language altered right now!
Only joking with you!
Hey, you learned a lesson and you will be more careful next time.
caaahyoko Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1258
Tue Apr 15, 08 2:32 pm EST
MeredithB wrote:
caaahyoko wrote:
Ugh. You didn't just say that...did you? Ugh.
YEah I did. Sorry, but you must be the PC police. Please make sure that when the police issue all points bulletins, they don't mention har color, eye color, skin color because that would be racist.
And please patrol all the newspapers (including the Park Slope paper) which include physical descriptions of perpatrators in their weekly crime blotter.
Ugh. You political correctness makes me sick. Ugh.
There's a big difference between describing someone who COMMITTED a crime and describing some type of person who MAY commit a crime. Its called racial profiling. Unless you're advocating that, and in that case I'll tell my family to watch out while you're around lest you call the police on them.
MeredithB Happy-Go-Lucky Malcontent
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 1327 Location: Here and There
Tue Apr 15, 08 3:01 pm EST
caaahyoko wrote:
There's a big difference between describing someone who COMMITTED a crime and describing some type of person who MAY commit a crime.
So to you This is not a crime?
"They told us to give them money and when I refused one of them pushed me over a fence into someone’s flowerbed."
Are YOU really that (color) blind?
caaahyoko Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1258
Tue Apr 15, 08 3:54 pm EST
MeredithB wrote:
caaahyoko wrote:
There's a big difference between describing someone who COMMITTED a crime and describing some type of person who MAY commit a crime.
So to you This is not a crime?
"They told us to give them money and when I refused one of them pushed me over a fence into someone’s flowerbed."
Are YOU really that (color) blind?
Huh?? You are just confusing yourself now. I was referring only to this statement of yours:
MeredithB wrote:
I wish pastoralia was more descriptive so that we'd all have abetter idea as to just what kind of teens to beware of!
If you hadn't said "what kind" there would be no problem with what you said. KIND means you're lumping people into some group. There is no KIND of person who is a criminal unless we start making people wear a big flashing CRIMINAL sign above their head.
If you want the original poster to describe the ACTUAL, specific person who committed the crime, great! But they can't describe the KIND of person who mugged them.
Am I the only person who did well in reading comprehension??
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13712 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Tue Apr 15, 08 3:56 pm EST
PWNED! _________________
daver who is you is
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 3591 Location: the land of the smiling knives
Tue Apr 15, 08 4:10 pm EST
caaahyoko wrote:
MeredithB wrote:
I wish pastoralia was more descriptive so that we'd all have abetter idea as to just what kind of teens to beware of!
If you hadn't said "what kind" there would be no problem with what you said. KIND means you're lumping people into some group. There is no KIND of person who is a criminal unless we start making people wear a big flashing CRIMINAL sign above their head.
If you want the original poster to describe the ACTUAL, specific person who committed the crime, great! But they can't describe the KIND of person who mugged them.
Am I the only person who did well in reading comprehension??
daver wrote:
Beware of the kind of teens that want to take your money and punch you in the face. That kind sucks.
_________________ "It's only as boring as you make it."
You're making me want to poke my eyes out with a spoon. Stop that.
Bringing the term thin-skinned to a whole new level!
caaahyoko Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1258
Tue Apr 15, 08 4:14 pm EST
daver wrote:
Beware of the kind of teens that want to take your money and punch you in the face. That kind sucks.
Yes, refer to the above.
MeredithB Happy-Go-Lucky Malcontent
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 1327 Location: Here and There
Tue Apr 15, 08 4:19 pm EST
Oh sorry for using the word KIND, I guess I meant description.
My bad.
Obviously you are reading a bit too much into my use of the word KIND. But you're part of the PC police, so it's expected.
Keep living in your deer-in-the-headlights world.
When you become the victim you may stop being so PC.
Until then...
caaahyoko Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1258
Tue Apr 15, 08 4:44 pm EST
MeredithB wrote:
Keep living in your deer-in-the-headlights world.
When you become the victim you may stop being so PC.
Until then...
Uh, too late, smarty pants.
Actually, I kept tabs on this discussion because I was "the victim" of a group of teens touching me inappropriately last Thursday. On my bike ride home, as I passed a group of young teenagers on the Manhattan Bridge, two of them reached over and slapped me on the ass.
I was lucky that was all they did. Still, I stopped immediately and called the cops. They were caught at the end of the bridge and I spoke with the officers, etc, etc. I'm sure there's a police report out there on it if you want all the details.
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